Indy 4

May 23, 2008 seven am

I saw the latest Indiana Jones movie on opening night (thanks Steve and George) and it was awesome and anyone who thinks it was awesome is awesome and if you didn't then you're not.  Awesome.

Other people's comments:

Posted by MadeofBees on May 25, 2008 twenty to ten am

I want to see it, but havent yet.  Glad you enjoyed it Ron.

Posted by Lestat on Jun 22, 2008 quarter past nine pm

It´s like Simpsons episode when bart opens one of Waldo´s book and he appears in big size weaving his hand.

"they dont effort anymore"...

Posted by Huhu on May 25, 2008 twenty past ten am

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring. The film.

Posted by Kroms on May 25, 2008 quarter past eleven am

Watch it again. It's a LOT better on second watching.

Posted by someguy on May 25, 2008 eleven am

Noooooooooooooooooooo!

Posted by FranFran on May 25, 2008 five past eleven am

Going to watch it next week i guess. Great expectations, somehow missing the AtlantisTheme but what the heck Indy is truly awesome!

Posted by Sideath on May 25, 2008 twenty five past eleven am

It's Awesome? I thought it wasn't. Awesome.

Posted by Thomas Egebaek on May 25, 2008 noon

Indy was awesome, the movie was not

Shia Lebouf was actually, but that tarzan bit and several other stupid moments is just proof that George Lucas is an idiot

Posted by Bagge on May 25, 2008 half past six pm

" Shia Lebouf was actually, but that tarzan bit and several other stupid moments is just proof that George Lucas is an idiot "

The Tarzan bit was great! Remember, Indiana Jones is based on adventure serials and movies from the thirties. It wouldn't be a thirties adventure-movie if the hero did not befriend some monkeys joined them in swinging through the jungle on lianas.

Posted by Chalito on May 25, 2008 twenty past noon

Saw the movie last thursday. It was completely awesome. Anybody who complains about the cheesy stuff, the tarzanesque part, the chase (Steven clearly hasn't lost his magic, no other director can make chase scenes like him), and the somewhat ridiculous action situations and paranormal-ish stuff either has never seen the other 3 films or has completely forgotten what Indy was all about.
The completely stereotypical villains, references to previous films, etc. This is just one more Indy movie, and that's Exactly what I wanted :)

Posted by Butt's X on May 26, 2008 quarter to one pm

Oh jeez...

I'm sorry, but if you think "no other director can make chase scenes like him", you don't watch many (good) movies. John Frankenheimer blows away any competition with the chase scene in Ronin. Frankenheimer actually told the stunt driver that he didn't want to see any brake lights. That's f**** awesome, I don't care what people say. Also, Peter Yates' 1968 hit Bullitt was, and can still be argued today as the best car chase ever. The new Bourne trilogy actually used Ronins chase scene to perfect the look of most of their car scenes.

Posted by tom on May 27, 2008 quarter past nine am

car chase? To Live and Die in L.A. (1985)

so Temple of Doom is just another movie trying to mimic videogames?

Posted by Dan on Jun 2, 2008 twenty five past seven am

Actually it was a lot different from the other 3 films.  Go watch 'Last Crusade?, come back and tell me what your thoughts are at that point.  I am very disappointed in the film, Harrison did a good job as always, and Sheila Labeouf did a good job as well but the rest of the cast were just there, oh yeah and John Hurt performed nicely as well.

I am sorry for being so extreme but the other three films did not attempt humor in every scene, Indy 4 tried to be too funny in too many scenes, and it was obviously made for children.  The originals had humor but the humor was very subtle, Last Crusade having the most but done well.  George has changed his focus since the prequel Star Wars films and it shows in Legend of the Crystal Skull.  When a series has a particular style and form you do not go and change that or you destroy the balance...which George did with the fourth installment.

I will always love the original 3 films, they are in my collection right beside 'The Young Indiana Jones' series, but this new Indy film is not part of the series as far as I am concerned.

Posted by Sven on May 25, 2008 five to one pm

I´ll watch it later.

Posted by tenochtitlan on May 25, 2008 quarter past one pm

Yes, it was awesome, EXCEPT FOR THAT BLOODY ALIEN BULLS***!!!

Sry, the end was real crap (and the tarzan moment too), but the rest of the film was really good and Indy has even become better when he's old...

Posted by Somedude on May 25, 2008 half past one pm

So Aliens are a big no-no and completely unbelievable but a box from "god" that melts people who look at it and not those who don't is absolutely fine?.
Not to mention a cup that makes you immortal if you drink from it but only in a small cave and a 500 years old knight who drank from said cup.

It was silly, cheesey and with a bit of a supernatural end, like all indy films.

Posted by Majus on May 25, 2008 half past one pm

Being awesome is cool.
I knew you would like it. Because of Shia and his monkeys, right?

Posted by Joshi on May 25, 2008 quarter to two pm

Loved it too, very sci fi which kinda goes against the rest of em, but I loved it all the same.

Posted by Nordri on May 25, 2008 quarter past two pm

E.T. meets Stargate but Ford was really cool.

Posted by Stoldark on May 25, 2008 twenty past two pm

I agree, the movie was awesome. My favourite is still indy 3 though.
The ending reminded me a lot of fate of Atlantis, for some reason. And I couldn't help thinking how the graphic adventure for this movie would look like, I bet most of you who played indy 3 and fate of Atlantis did this exercise while watching the movie too ;)

Posted by rado on May 26, 2008 five past four am

the game would rely too much on "use crystal skull on..." puzzles.
awesome :)

Posted by humble on May 25, 2008 quarter to three pm

Awesomenesterest

Posted by Garwik on May 25, 2008 ten to three pm

Anybody that didn't like Indy 4 has forgotten how to have fun.

Posted by Cancerboy on May 25, 2008 ten to three pm

I saw the movie and I agree it was awesome... so much so that I saw it again the next day and it was even more awesome!

Posted by mashi on May 25, 2008 quarter past three pm

i've seen it yesterday, awesome!

Posted by Internetor on May 25, 2008 twenty past four pm

The whole theme was a really good idea, but i think the movie is poorly scripted. Events just seem to pile up in an unnorganized manner which make the plot a bit boring and confusing at the same time. Karen Allen's role seems more like a prop than a real character and Cate Blanchet's role is a bit too unidimensional (it would be funny if indy got to do her first before meeting marion again).

I would go into some more details, but yeah, its getting boring to write so much.

Posted by DAGO on May 25, 2008 quarter past six pm

I saw it two times, one on the opening night and one last night, the first time I was too critical of the special effects and plot, for some reason the second time I felt like a kid again and really enjoyed it.
If someone didn't like it go and watch it again, trust me.

Posted by Gus Fune on May 25, 2008 ten past eight pm

Did anyone else feel sometimes that was inside a LucasArts adventure game?

Monkey Island (a lot of it. monkees couldn't sail a ship but they certainly could drive a car), Indy and the Fate of Atlantis (those classic "put the rock in here" puzzles), The Dig (waddahell!? space civilizations!?), Zak Mckraken and omg!

Don't Marion remind you of Elaine Marley!?

Great movie, i mean: Awesome!

Posted by A. V. on May 25, 2008 quarter to ten pm

Dude, it WAS awesome! It was like Fate of Atlantis!

Posted by Awesomnmemnemes on May 26, 2008 twenty five to one am

Except that Fate of Atlantis wasn't crap...

Posted by A. V. on May 26, 2008 twenty past nine am

Well, you're just not awesome then, are you?

Posted by Someone on May 26, 2008 twenty five to two am

Fate of Atlantis still manages to be better :p in therms of both plot and characters.

Posted by someone else on May 25, 2008 twenty five to midnight

@Gus Fune: you forgot Herman Toothrot ;) - imho this crazy friend of Indy (Oxley) is an exact lookalike of Herman Toothrot. Especially in his first appearance where he's dancing by that fire.

Awesome indeed.

Posted by craddack on Jun 17, 2008 three am

That's EXACTLY what I thought! Meet Herman!

Posted by Mikael on May 26, 2008 five to one am

Great, but communists don't think so... death to communism!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7418727.stm

Posted by owen-b on May 26, 2008 one am

I saw it on opening night as well (thanks me for booking it in advance woo) and thought it was a major disappointment. It's not the silliness of the theme that spoils it, it's the fact that it's ALIENS and they've never done aliens before and yet nobody in the film seems to bat an eyelid that it's aliens. Plus the aliens look stupid when they come to life - dreadfully unimaginatively realised.

Plus there's far too many hangers-on in the 'team' that only serve one very simplistic purpose each, Marion has bugger all to do, the chemistry between Ford and Shia is great but overcrowded by everyone else, the lead baddie is about as threatening as a pretty blonde (oh, she is!) and has a really unsatisfying end, the script is a bit weak, there's barely any real adventuring and clue solving hijinks - it just barrels from scene to scene, location to location without enjoying how they got there, there's some great moments of eery quiet with just Ford and Shia but there needs to be way more, I got very bored of the "we're old!" gags after the 5th or 6th, and they just kept coming, and the CG (while expected) was vastly overused and removed the sense of real physical danger that all the other Indy films had. They used to use physical effects, even if they were miniatures, but now it's a case of "make it look really cool in a computer" but it's painfully obvious when it's a computer and it takes you right out of the moment. The car/jungle chase and the ants are a case in point.

But overall yeah, it's okay.

;)

Posted by Internetor on May 26, 2008 ten past two am

Eh, you surely havent read much books on the matter havent ya? The whole alien plot wasnt simply created out of nothing. It was based on real life facts (though most of these are highly contested) and some historical theories regarding the mayan civilization.

The drawings on the wall when indy is going trough the waterfall tunnel are a lot based on the ancient maya scriptures of the Perez Codex which contain disturbing evidence of alien influence on the mayan civilization, though its not as explicit as the cave drawings on the film.

The deformated skulls indy finds on nazca are also based on skulls which were actually found.

And last, but not least, there's the mitchell-hedges skull, which indy mentions in the film, that is one of the greatest misteries of archeology so far, because the skeleton is perfectly polished, carved from a single stone of quartz (with a detachable jaw though) without any markings of tools on it. A perfection that could be achieved by laser tools.

Posted by Internetor on May 26, 2008 three am

This BBC article is very biased because it doesnt mention the whole story, and i can see you really didnt read the whole wiki article. The brittish museum skull is fake, but the mitchell-hedges skull is definitively real. Dont believe on everything they say, because as far as i know, some people are whilling to discredit a whole bunch of incontestable evidence in order to prove their theories, and i believe the false skulls where created with a similar purpose: to discredit the original one.

Posted by Abelo on May 26, 2008 twenty past two am

I found it really fun. Found a couple of things out of place, like the ending, but anyway, it's really funny, and some aspects like photography are even better than the old ones.

Posted by NotAwesome on May 26, 2008 twenty five past two am

Didn't like it... My problem : in this movie, Indy is a tourist : he has almost no influence on the plot, no goal, he just follows the skulls and the people who have some idea of what doing with it.

Posted by Internetor on May 26, 2008 five past three am

A fact. The plot is a lot like a slideshow and the car chase sequences seem somewhat misplaced.

Posted by gnome on May 26, 2008 twenty to three am

Hmmm...

Posted by Greg Williams on May 26, 2008 twenty five to eight am

It wasn't perfect but it was far better than I expected.  Kind of surprising actually.  It did feel like Indy was somewhat along for the ride, but it was still enjoyable.

Posted by Greg Williams on May 26, 2008 twenty five to eight am

Oh yeah, GL is an idiot for including the prairie dogs three times.

Posted by Pandan on May 26, 2008 twenty to eight am

I want to see it too...
I'll have to do it one of these days.

Posted by RazorBlade79 on May 26, 2008 five to eight am

I loved it and had a lot of fun! It's Indy and Shea wasn't annoying as hell so win/win!

Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 ten past eight am

Indy 4 was good, but falls short of true Indy quality.  It breaks away from the typical formatting established in the past.  

-The previous three films start with Indy questing after an item unrelated to the main portion of the movie.  KOTCS starts with Indy finding an alien in Area 51 which is later revealed to be part of the main quest.

- Although, aliens, interdimensional or otherwise are part of the meso-american conspiracy theories,  it feels odd for Indy to be searching for alien life.  In the past, the items were relics with unfathomable, supernatural qualities handed down or created by Gods that defy explanation. The mystery of these relics in Raiders, Temple, and Crusade gives these movies a sense of believability because in reality the audience still doesn't know how, what, where, why, and when about the Gods that created them.  Interdimensional aliens answer too many questions we have about the creators of the crystal skulls.

I thought other Indy elements fell short of the previous movies.

-Raiders had a fight around props on an airplane. Temple had a fight on rock crushing conveyor belt.  Crusade had a fight on a moving tank.  Skull had a fight surrounded by... ants.  The threat level during the Skull fight was very low.

-Dialogue for Indys interaction with his family wasn't as developed and as natural as Crusade. Indy saying things like,"This is intolerable!" were out of character as Indy is clearly not the same as his father.

- Mac should have been eliminated.  There was too much history between Mac and Indy for us to believe in only five lines of dialogue and the betrayal by Mac was too soon for us to feel anything in the audience.  indy may have felt something, but in the audience I felt nothing because Mac had only been on screen for a handful of minutes with almost no dialogue.

Finally, I don't think Shia leBouf is that great an actor.  Sorry Spielberg,  I know he is your golden child, but I haven't seen anything that impressive from him.

Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 twenty five past eight am

On second thought,  it was just OK.    I thought the pacing was off on the action. The three water falls were poorly executed.  Indy's epiphany about Ox's clue  would have been a better gag if the fell over the three water falls 1,2,3 instead of drop pause, drop pause, and finally another drop.  Then the whole Mutt getting whacked in the balls was terrible.   Seriously, does indy need to go there for comedy?  I don't think so.

The only thing I thought worked well was the mushroom cloud looming over Indy.  The nuclear holocaust is too big a thing to prevent for Indy.  This scene is his death as a hero and probably should have been placed near the end of the movie.

Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 ten to nine am

Another poorly exectuted action sequence. Mutt says, "whoa." Indy screams,"WHOA!" and they jump a tree log and hit an ant hill.  Big deal!  If Indy screamed, WHOA!" and they fell off the cliff into the river, that would have been more appropriate.

Posted by Gorba on May 26, 2008 five past one pm

That is the only post without a picture on the first page!!!!
Shame on You ron gilbert!!!!

Posted by someguy on May 26, 2008 twenty past one pm

It's the Monkey Island 4 of the Indiana Jones movies.

Posted by gorba on Jun 7, 2008 twenty past two pm

Beutifuly explainded!

Posted by boo on May 26, 2008 quarter past three pm

Except Monkey Island 4 wasn't awesome. Aren't you paying attention?

Posted by someguy on May 26, 2008 half past five pm

Ummm. That's kinda what I meant.

Posted by MacGuffin on May 26, 2008 quarter to ten pm

anyone think (or hope) they'll make a 5th Indy? And if so what could it be about? Would the next one be set in the 1960's?
Prehaps...
...Indiana Jones and the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test?

or since he'd be even older, maybe...
...Indiana Jones and the Convalescent Home?

Posted by Cristián Frenkel on May 26, 2008 twenty five past eleven pm

The movie is AWESOME. There aren't other words.

I think the ones that doesn't think that is awesome... lol

I really enjoy the movie. Was like all the LucasArt (and LucasFilm Games) style mixed in a movie. Something like Pirates of the caribbean, but less "pop". More gamer

Posted by Ditikos on May 27, 2008 quarter past one am

Well, it surely did look like an Adventure game, it HAD elements from Fate of Atlantis reused. Revolving platforms, The spanish soldier's grave looks like crete dig site, the rocket rollercoaster from A51 that is the stone rollercoaster that you use to get in Atlantis, the chase that looks like the Paris Chase, the possesion of Herman Toothroot erm prof. Oxley looks like sophia's necklace, heck even the skull itself looked like the mural on Atlantis that has spirals (seen in many walls). Even the alien chamber looked like it was ripped off from the god chamber. Now only if I had some orichalcum yumm....

Other than that, indy 4 is a fullfillment of indy's family life and not the end of his adventures. We find ourselves into a point of Indy's life where he is no longer young, he is friendless and has to reconsider his own values, in a world changing to a balance of power.

But still there is adventure to be told (that's what the hat sequence was meant to be in the end)...

Posted by someguy on May 27, 2008 five past two am

And where was Sallah? He is one of the best characters in the series. Surely they could have written him in somehow. Perhaps there could have been a crystal skull in Egypt.

Posted by someguy on May 27, 2008 five past two am

Another thing. If there are thirteen skulls in total and Ox had one of them. What happened to the 14th skull they find at the beginning of the movie in the military warehouse?

Posted by Ditikos on May 27, 2008 five past three am

Actually that part bugged me too. But in a line they say that the bodies found in roswell were "cousins" of the original skulls. Maybe a deleted scene.

Also in one other scene, Irina is removing the skull from the body, so what happened to that too? (It's before the fire incident)

Posted by Bagge on May 27, 2008 twenty past three pm

The (Roswell) alien in the beginning was of the same race as the ones in the spaceship in Eldorado. However, he was not one of the thirteen aliens who were sitting in that spaceship. I assume the machine would not work if you placed somebody else's skull on the body in the spaceship.


Also - not related to what you said - I liked how similar the endings of KotCS and FoA are, with a God-machine hidden inside the ruins of an ancient civilization killing the main bad-guy(s) due to their desires to become something more than human.

Posted by johan on May 27, 2008 eight am

religion -> good : aliens -> bad.
nazis -> good : russians -> bad.

Posted by Itamar Schefi on May 27, 2008 ten to three pm

i am totally agree with you. but the russion chik was hot.



(and the aliens just ruinedthe whole indish atmosphere)

Posted by Bad Dates on May 27, 2008 twenty five past eight pm

You, as many have, dog Indy IV because of UFOs and aliens.  But, how is that not Indy?

For example, if Moloram can rip a guys heart out, have it catch on fire in his hand and still send the dude breathing to his death by lava; if Donovan can drink water from the wrong cup and get blown to pieces; if the bravest of the 3 knights can live 700+ years; if opening the ark can melt everyone who doesn't close their eyes; and if Belloq can really speak Havitos - then by all means Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is true Indy.

Posted by johan on May 28, 2008 five to four am

yeah, you are right in one way. if all that can happen, anything goes so to say. but i still feel that i cant relate to aliens the way i relate to religion and religious myths. religion has such a strong impact on our culture wheras aliens has minimal impact(well at least for me). And im not saying aliens are a no go, lots of movies have successfuly implemented aliens in the story, its just that in indy 4 it was poorly thought out and poorly executed.

Posted by Turmoil23 on May 28, 2008 quarter to six am

ford awesome
blanchett awesome
it wouldnt matter if they are nazis, russians, middle eastern bad guys in indy are always the same
bringing the chick from the second(?) movie, unnecesary
i hate that all the steve-george movies have to end with aliens.. like adding aliens to the end of AI, i think i saw some aliens behind a tree in munich too :P
i give indy 4 a 7.5/10

Posted by Aaron1234 on Jul 9, 2008 twenty five past eleven pm

Ai didn't end with aliens, they were futuristic robots.

Posted by someguy on May 29, 2008 ten past two am

I really doesn't matter to me that there are inter-dimensional super beings in Indy 4. What matters is that the script is poorly written and suspension of disbelief goes out the window when a) that kid swings on the vines as if he was tarzan in an animated movie and b) they go over three huge water falls without a scratch. Not to mention that tree branch bending scene. It all seems too much like a cartoon. Since when was Indiana Jones invincible? In the other three films the script goes to great lengths to show that Indy certainly can be hurt.

Posted by someguy on May 29, 2008 quarter past two am

Actually come to think of it. Suspension of disbelief goes out the window when Indy survives an atomic blast by hiding in a fridge. He then emerges without a scratch. Don't get me wrong that was an awesome scene. It just wasn't Indiana Jones.

Posted by some other guy on May 29, 2008 ten to three am

Finally someone mentioned that stupid scene!

Posted by gorba on Jun 7, 2008 twenty five past two pm

THAT was surely even more NON-INDY than all the alien scenes together

Posted by Bravopunk on May 29, 2008 quarter to seven am

I liked it a lot!

Ok, there was more action and some szenes were over the top (more than in der first 3). But it was still Indiana Jones!

And if you look carefully, than you can see all the little "homages" to the first three films and even Star Wars.


After all, I would like to see a 5th Indy.

PS: Shia was perfekt. It wouldn't even have disturbt me, if he had put on Indy's hat in the last Szene.(After that, I was wondering about myself!)

Posted by Butt's X on May 29, 2008 quarter to noon

No 5th indy IMO. They burned the brand. No more Rocky, no more Rambo, and no more indy.

Posted by LazyAndroid on Nov 19, 2008 twenty five past ten am

No more Star Wars, no more Alien, etc.

But I think we still can handle some more John McClane.

Posted by Darth slaughter on May 30, 2008 quarter to ten am

Turmoil23,

In the end of AI, it was not aliens... it were futuristic robots, as previously indicated in the beggining of the film. They were mechas. In fact that made much more sense, since ETs are out of place.

well, I loved indiana jones 4, and although surviving an atomic bomb is exagerated, if you look back, the other indys had problems with suspension of disbelief:

Temple of doom (the best of the series, period) had indy jumping from a plane and a tall cliff on a raft.

In Raiders, he traveled outside a submarine.

In last crusade, there was that invisible bridge that in fact, was quite visible. Indy should just lean his head.

about plot-hole, why the wrong chalice would kill anyone, like donovan? The real grail had power of life. The others had power of taking life. So, they were also powerful relics worth a lot, and useful to offer drinks to your enemies.

Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 quarter to one pm

"well, I loved indiana jones 4, and although surviving an atomic bomb is exagerated, if you look back, the other indys had problems with suspension of disbelief:

Temple of doom (the best of the series, period) had indy jumping from a plane and a tall cliff on a raft.

In Raiders, he traveled outside a submarine.

In last crusade, there was that invisible bridge that in fact, was quite visible. Indy should just lean his head."

True there are moments in the other films where they tread a fine line concerning suspension of disbelief but definitely not to the extent that Indy 4 does and they usually reign it back in. Indy 4 just seems like a ridiculous live action cartoon (whose idea was the stupid prairie dog thing?). Temple of Doom is the next worst offender in this department and that is why I consider it to be the weaker of the first three films. It has some classic moments like the spikes chamber scene (classic Indy) and the mine cart chase but these are offset by the stupid shiva cult nonsense which seems totally out of context with the Indiana Jones canon established in Raiders.

"about plot-hole, why the wrong chalice would kill anyone, like donovan? The real grail had power of life. The others had power of taking life. So, they were also powerful relics worth a lot, and useful to offer drinks to your enemies."

I don't see how that could be considered a plot hole. It simply isn't relevant. Who the hell would want a cup the kills people when they drink from it?

Posted by Darth slaughter on May 30, 2008 ten to ten am

Oh and by the way:

Nazis are not the greatest indy villains. They are the main nemesis. But mola ram was the most scary, a temple of doom had no nazi, no russian, and in my opinion, it's the best of the series, since it has non stop action, there's no time to breath, and the scenes of humor are far better than in last crusade, that was too goofy. they destroyed marcus brody.

Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 five past one pm

Sorry I am in an argumentative mood today...

Why would you want only non-stop action? You also need time to develop the characters (an important part of movie making which seems to be sorely neglected these days). Last Crusade has character in spades and has some of the funniest dialog in the series. The interplay between Indy and his father was brilliantly handled.

Remember this scene?

Elsa: It's perfectly obvious where the pages are. He's given them to Marcus Brody.
Professor Henry Jones: Marcus? You didn't drag poor Marcus along did you? He's not up to the challenge.
Walter Donovan: He sticks out like a sore thumb. We'll find him.
Indiana Jones: The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
[Cut to middle of fair in the Middle East, Marcus Brody wearing bright suit and white hat, sticking out like sore thumb]
Marcus Brody: Uhhh, does anyone here speak English?

Classic.

Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 five to two pm

I guess the thing which irks me most about the new film is that it simply isn't memorable. The characters are bland and the dialog is uninspired. The earlier films have many memorable scenes and quotable lines which I have fun spouting with friends even to this day.

Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 five pm

Also there just isn't enough whip play in Indy 4. I think he uses his whip maybe a couple of times at the beginning of the movie. Needs more whip and less sword fighting vine swinging kid. The movie is called Indiana Jones after all.

Posted by Lestat on Jun 2, 2008 four am

(TAKEN + COCOON) / tomb rider= An oldman who can resist a damn atomic bomb...(be aware, he tasted the Holly Grail.)


A very predictable, full of cliches and very talkative movie with out any iconic action moment as indy used to have...

Even though, Indy is Indy!!!

Let`s take out Walt Disney from the fridge, and let Harrison Ford enter por posterity!

Indiana should never die!

Posted by March on Jun 2, 2008 ten past four pm

It is Indy in the end. Even though I'm pretty sure that if we watch it a second time, more relaxed and with less expectations, we'll end up adoring it.

It is true that it is kinda faulty, a shame that they had to go so far away in time, the whole FBI and H bomb thing, was not that cool. I also didn't like him working as a goberment agent, makes sense, but he never did things like that, he travelled by himself. Else, that part should've been better introduced.

The villan was not bad, and the plot maintains the idea of the bad guys trying to find a greater weapon, as happens with RotA and TLC. And given that the alien thing would not have been entirely bad if it had a little more mystisism on it, I believe the way it solves and how the aliens do come to life it's what blows it. But in the end, it is an agent history and at first he doesn't believe it, just as in TLC. Generally indy doesn't really believe the legend and is dragged to it by trying to save others.

Also agree on the AG looking, the ending with the aliens and how her eyes turn bright and then explode really reminded of FoA.

Hey, here's an idea, how about we make up a AG out of this. 5 year project, sure, but what's the hurry? Who else got lots of free time?

Posted by Nosaj on Jun 2, 2008 half past six pm

The stupid prairie dogs, monkeys, swinging from vines like Tarzan and the refrigerator were the things that bugged me most.  Why is it I can give a tiny bit of creedence to ghosts coming out of the ark, hearts ripped from living sacrifices or water from a special cup curing a bullet wound but I can't get over the refrigerator?  What was the point of the scene?  We know 1957 was the atomic age.  It didn't fit into the story in any way except to perturb me.

Overall, considering I had never seen Indy in a theater before, it was worth it.  Probably will go see it one more time just because of that reason, but only for that reason.

Posted by johnny on Jun 7, 2008 ten past five pm

pirates 3 was much better.

Posted by ynamtie on Jun 9, 2008 twenty five to nine am

^^ signed, and that flick was pure freshly produced tripe.

I liked Ford and LeBouf, but the rest was just whack. No character development, no mystery, no scenic shots just an array of indyish scenes put together to form a 120min movie. Oh yeah, and there is something about a plot and something about aliens... can't remember, this crock of shit was just NOT memorable.

They should've let the Grumpy Gamer make the movie, it might not have been a whole lot better, but at least it would have been genuinely funny.

Posted by spaceship789 on Jun 9, 2008 twenty to ten am

Most of the stuff had precendents.
- The family subplot.
- The supernatural element.
- the alien element.
- the indy getting hypnotised element.
- the younger version of indy who who we're meant to like.

You could complain much more about Temple, after Raiders. If you have set your expectations to include the precedents set in the other movie, then theres not much inconsistency.

Posted by Andy on Jun 11, 2008 half past eleven am

** Medium Spoilers **

Saw it, found it OK. Then a few days after I woke up and thought: "Holy sh**, crystal aliens?". Now honestly, 'tis worse than part 2.

Why the russian psychic? What does she do? Try to read him, fails, telling him: you're too much of a hunkfor that. And then? Nada. He FRIGGIN HAS TO TRY TO SAVE THE VILLAINS IN THE END.

Hopefully, the transformers guy will be digitally ereased by Spielberg/Lukas when remastering the thing. Totally pointless. I mean, even Shorty was useful, wasn't he?

After the Ark, mystic stones, the holy grail, no problem with the alien superpowers in this movie. As long as the aliens have them and NOT Indie. IMHO he appears uberhuman in this movie! He has not the nerdy personality we seen in former movies.

OMG father - son theme, "the next generation". Ahhhhhrgl

Hey, huge ant killing folks animation taken straight out of "Mummy 1". Saves money.

Hey, friggen saucer flying away animation taken straight from "X-Files the movie". Saves more money. I swear I saw Moulder and Scully sitting behind a bush.

Bottom line: bloodless characters in a bloodless plot. And this has nothing to do with the expectations after 19 years of waiting. They had nineteen years and came up with this? Holy flying batman!

Sorry for repeating some of the other posters, didn't bother to read what they had to jabber...

Posted by nambulous on Jun 22, 2008 twenty to three pm

"They had nineteen years and came up with this? Holy flying batman!"

Yes, that was the biggest mystery to me. They had this much time, but this was the best script they could come up with. This really stuns me.

Posted by boris on Jun 12, 2008 five am

IT WAS CRAP!

Posted by Tinydinosaurs on Jun 12, 2008 ten past ten am

Yeah, it was ok... but what was with all those chicks drinking Manhattans and having sex... (looking at ticket stub) ohhh.. wait... sh*t...

Posted by Dimitri on Jun 12, 2008 ten past ten am

The movie is great!! No doubt! The artifact is better than the Sankara stones and the Holy Grail. 3 things bothered me though. The whole nuclear bomb scene. The other Indy films have such incredible open action scenes. Of course, the bloody Shia-Tarzan... And the ants who eat people. Too sily for me. But it's great. Really great.

Posted by Frisbie on Jun 13, 2008 ten to eleven am

yeah yeah.. the movie is great! Like others!! :D i don't like much the scene with magnetic part.. sometime it was too strong (it can oriented lights and gunpowder retries to skull from very long distance) sometime not(soldiers be able to mantain their weapon and neckledge on their bodies..)! bah nothing is perfect! :P

Posted by Ballo on Jun 15, 2008 half past three pm

Awesome is to call Steven Spielberg and George Lucas "Steven" and "George".And I suposse you hate hearing this,but AWESOME is Guybrush,Murray and to see your name on a videogame box.
Now seriusly,I´m 28 years old,and I must thank you for my sense of humor and my twisted ideas to solve a puzzle.
You will always be an example to follow for me.
Thanks from Spain.

Posted by Sgt. Crushem on Jun 16, 2008 five past ten am

It was awesome!

1st time I was to focused on comparing the films.
2nd and 3rd it proves to be an amazing Indy adventure like the rest.

I will agree with the monkey Tarzan scene, def kinda Cheesy.
but the scene where Indy blows the dart back in the grave guardians mouth and then the "your a teacher?" "only Part time" line! F'ing Epic!

Alien Idea is fine, anyone ever read the comics?

here is hoping for Indy 5

Posted by someguy on Jun 18, 2008 ten past three pm

The thing I found strange is that the version of the "part time" line in the trailer worked better than the one in the final film. Something to do with the emphasis. Why they decided to go with another take in the film is anyone's guess.

Posted by Fero on Jun 22, 2008 half past four pm

It was awesome! But not good as the trilogy.

Indy 4 = Monkey Island 3 (good but not good enough... something is missing... some old taste.. maybe a little 80's soul.)

Posted by Lestat on Jun 22, 2008 quarter past nine pm

It´s like Simpsons episode when bart opens one of Waldo´s book and he appears in big size weaving his hand.

"they dont effort anymore"...

Posted by webdesign on Jul 1, 2008 ten past two am

MAcht weiter so. Woltle nur mal nette Grüße heir lassen.

Posted by nnsense on Jul 4, 2008 ten to four pm

Indy works alone, Indy is ironic, Indy is the one and only who can stop a bunch of Nazi, ending to have his father's diary signed by Hitler!!!
This.. AWESOME.. Indy 4... seems.. more... a National Treasure.. 3 ! ! ! !
(hehe.. bad english? for sure! here in italy they doesn't teach english AT ALL.. sigh :) )

Posted by nnsense on Jul 4, 2008 ten to four pm

PS: LET'S FIGHT FOR A REAL MONKEY ISLAND MOVIE!!!! :))))

Posted by Frisbie on Jul 5, 2008 quarter to two am

make a movie on Monkey Island may be very nice but only if it's a new movie and not a representation of the older games, their story are good for game and not for movie in my opinion...

Posted by Mehe on Jul 10, 2008 twenty five to three pm

They certainly nuked the fridge with this one

Posted by Indiana Jones on Jul 11, 2008 twenty to four am

The thing that hurt the suspension of disbelief more than anything else is trying to portray Shia being someone who can inherit the Fedora. Harrison Ford is a sturdy man who seems like he can take a punch or two. Shia looks like the cute guy from a boy band who has never worked with his hands in his life. Him being cast for the role is the worse decision since Tara Reid being a scientist in Alone in the Dark. Wait! That was genius!

Posted by Mr Pineapple head on Aug 6, 2008 ten past two am

Indy 4 was a huge pile of steaming.......
I wish it was never made.....

The characters never really feels like they r in danger (the waterfall sequence is a brilliant example of that).
The crotch jokes r out of style completely...
the bad guy (girl) has no personality...

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