Indy 4
May 23, 2008 seven am
I saw the latest Indiana Jones movie on opening night (thanks Steve and George) and it was awesome and anyone who thinks it was awesome is awesome and if you didn't then you're not. Awesome.
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Posted by MadeofBees on May 25, 2008 twenty to ten am
Posted by Lestat on Jun 22, 2008 quarter past nine pm
"they dont effort anymore"...
Posted by Huhu on May 25, 2008 twenty past ten am
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Posted by Sideath on May 25, 2008 twenty five past eleven am
Posted by Thomas Egebaek on May 25, 2008 noon
Shia Lebouf was actually, but that tarzan bit and several other stupid moments is just proof that George Lucas is an idiot
Posted by Bagge on May 25, 2008 half past six pm
The Tarzan bit was great! Remember, Indiana Jones is based on adventure serials and movies from the thirties. It wouldn't be a thirties adventure-movie if the hero did not befriend some monkeys joined them in swinging through the jungle on lianas.
Posted by Chalito on May 25, 2008 twenty past noon
The completely stereotypical villains, references to previous films, etc. This is just one more Indy movie, and that's
Exactlywhat I wanted :)Posted by Butt's X on May 26, 2008 quarter to one pm
I'm sorry, but if you think "no other director can make chase scenes like him", you don't watch many (good) movies. John Frankenheimer blows away any competition with the chase scene in Ronin. Frankenheimer actually told the stunt driver that he didn't want to see any brake lights. That's f**** awesome, I don't care what people say. Also, Peter Yates' 1968 hit Bullitt was, and can still be argued today as the best car chase ever. The new Bourne trilogy actually used Ronins chase scene to perfect the look of most of their car scenes.
Posted by tom on May 27, 2008 quarter past nine am
so Temple of Doom is just another movie trying to mimic videogames?
Posted by Dan on Jun 2, 2008 twenty five past seven am
I am sorry for being so extreme but the other three films did not attempt humor in every scene, Indy 4 tried to be too funny in too many scenes, and it was obviously made for children. The originals had humor but the humor was very subtle, Last Crusade having the most but done well. George has changed his focus since the prequel Star Wars films and it shows in Legend of the Crystal Skull. When a series has a particular style and form you do not go and change that or you destroy the balance...which George did with the fourth installment.
I will always love the original 3 films, they are in my collection right beside 'The Young Indiana Jones' series, but this new Indy film is not part of the series as far as I am concerned.
Posted by Sven on May 25, 2008 five to one pm
Posted by tenochtitlan on May 25, 2008 quarter past one pm
Sry, the end was real crap (and the tarzan moment too), but the rest of the film was really good and Indy has even become better when he's old...
Posted by Somedude on May 25, 2008 half past one pm
Not to mention a cup that makes you immortal if you drink from it but only in a small cave and a 500 years old knight who drank from said cup.
It was silly, cheesey and with a bit of a supernatural end, like all indy films.
Posted by Majus on May 25, 2008 half past one pm
I knew you would like it. Because of Shia and his monkeys, right?
Posted by Joshi on May 25, 2008 quarter to two pm
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Posted by Stoldark on May 25, 2008 twenty past two pm
The ending reminded me a lot of fate of Atlantis, for some reason. And I couldn't help thinking how the graphic adventure for this movie would look like, I bet most of you who played indy 3 and fate of Atlantis did this exercise while watching the movie too ;)
Posted by rado on May 26, 2008 five past four am
awesome :)
Posted by humble on May 25, 2008 quarter to three pm
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Posted by Internetor on May 25, 2008 twenty past four pm
I would go into some more details, but yeah, its getting boring to write so much.
Posted by DAGO on May 25, 2008 quarter past six pm
If someone didn't like it go and watch it again, trust me.
Posted by Gus Fune on May 25, 2008 ten past eight pm
Monkey Island (a lot of it. monkees couldn't sail a ship but they certainly could drive a car), Indy and the Fate of Atlantis (those classic "put the rock in here" puzzles), The Dig (waddahell!? space civilizations!?), Zak Mckraken and omg!
Don't Marion remind you of Elaine Marley!?
Great movie, i mean: Awesome!
Posted by A. V. on May 25, 2008 quarter to ten pm
Posted by Awesomnmemnemes on May 26, 2008 twenty five to one am
Posted by A. V. on May 26, 2008 twenty past nine am
Posted by Someone on May 26, 2008 twenty five to two am
Posted by someone else on May 25, 2008 twenty five to midnight
Awesome indeed.
Posted by craddack on Jun 17, 2008 three am
Posted by Mikael on May 26, 2008 five to one am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7418727.stm
Posted by owen-b on May 26, 2008 one am
Plus there's far too many hangers-on in the 'team' that only serve one very simplistic purpose each, Marion has bugger all to do, the chemistry between Ford and Shia is great but overcrowded by everyone else, the lead baddie is about as threatening as a pretty blonde (oh, she is!) and has a really unsatisfying end, the script is a bit weak, there's barely any real adventuring and clue solving hijinks - it just barrels from scene to scene, location to location without enjoying how they got there, there's some great moments of eery quiet with just Ford and Shia but there needs to be way more, I got very bored of the "we're old!" gags after the 5th or 6th, and they just kept coming, and the CG (while expected) was vastly overused and removed the sense of real physical danger that all the other Indy films had. They used to use physical effects, even if they were miniatures, but now it's a case of "make it look really cool in a computer" but it's painfully obvious when it's a computer and it takes you right out of the moment. The car/jungle chase and the ants are a case in point.
But overall yeah, it's okay.
;)
Posted by Internetor on May 26, 2008 ten past two am
The drawings on the wall when indy is going trough the waterfall tunnel are a lot based on the ancient maya scriptures of the Perez Codex which contain disturbing evidence of alien influence on the mayan civilization, though its not as explicit as the cave drawings on the film.
The deformated skulls indy finds on nazca are also based on skulls which were actually found.
And last, but not least, there's the mitchell-hedges skull, which indy mentions in the film, that is one of the greatest misteries of archeology so far, because the skeleton is perfectly polished, carved from a single stone of quartz (with a detachable jaw though) without any markings of tools on it. A perfection that could be achieved by laser tools.
Posted by Huhu on May 26, 2008 twenty five past two am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_skull
Posted by Internetor on May 26, 2008 three am
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Posted by Pandan on May 26, 2008 twenty to eight am
I'll have to do it one of these days.
Posted by RazorBlade79 on May 26, 2008 five to eight am
Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 ten past eight am
-The previous three films start with Indy questing after an item unrelated to the main portion of the movie. KOTCS starts with Indy finding an alien in Area 51 which is later revealed to be part of the main quest.
- Although, aliens, interdimensional or otherwise are part of the meso-american conspiracy theories, it feels odd for Indy to be searching for alien life. In the past, the items were relics with unfathomable, supernatural qualities handed down or created by Gods that defy explanation. The mystery of these relics in Raiders, Temple, and Crusade gives these movies a sense of believability because in reality the audience still doesn't know how, what, where, why, and when about the Gods that created them. Interdimensional aliens answer too many questions we have about the creators of the crystal skulls.
I thought other Indy elements fell short of the previous movies.
-Raiders had a fight around props on an airplane. Temple had a fight on rock crushing conveyor belt. Crusade had a fight on a moving tank. Skull had a fight surrounded by... ants. The threat level during the Skull fight was very low.
-Dialogue for Indys interaction with his family wasn't as developed and as natural as Crusade. Indy saying things like,"This is intolerable!" were out of character as Indy is clearly not the same as his father.
- Mac should have been eliminated. There was too much history between Mac and Indy for us to believe in only five lines of dialogue and the betrayal by Mac was too soon for us to feel anything in the audience. indy may have felt something, but in the audience I felt nothing because Mac had only been on screen for a handful of minutes with almost no dialogue.
Finally, I don't think Shia leBouf is that great an actor. Sorry Spielberg, I know he is your golden child, but I haven't seen anything that impressive from him.
Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 twenty five past eight am
The only thing I thought worked well was the mushroom cloud looming over Indy. The nuclear holocaust is too big a thing to prevent for Indy. This scene is his death as a hero and probably should have been placed near the end of the movie.
Posted by Vash on May 26, 2008 ten to nine am
Posted by Gorba on May 26, 2008 five past one pm
Shame on You ron gilbert!!!!
Posted by someguy on May 26, 2008 twenty past one pm
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Posted by boo on May 26, 2008 quarter past three pm
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Posted by MacGuffin on May 26, 2008 quarter to ten pm
Prehaps...
...Indiana Jones and the Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test?
or since he'd be even older, maybe...
...Indiana Jones and the Convalescent Home?
Posted by Cristián Frenkel on May 26, 2008 twenty five past eleven pm
I think the ones that doesn't think that is awesome... lol
I really enjoy the movie. Was like all the LucasArt (and LucasFilm Games) style mixed in a movie. Something like Pirates of the caribbean, but less "pop". More gamer
Posted by Ditikos on May 27, 2008 quarter past one am
Herman Toothrooterm prof. Oxley looks like sophia's necklace, heck even the skull itself looked like the mural on Atlantis that has spirals (seen in many walls). Even the alien chamber looked like it was ripped off from the god chamber. Now only if I had some orichalcum yumm....Other than that, indy 4 is a fullfillment of indy's family life and not the end of his adventures. We find ourselves into a point of Indy's life where he is no longer young, he is friendless and has to reconsider his own values, in a world changing to a balance of power.
But still there is adventure to be told (that's what the hat sequence was meant to be in the end)...
Posted by someguy on May 27, 2008 five past two am
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Posted by Ditikos on May 27, 2008 five past three am
Also in one other scene, Irina is removing the skull from the body, so what happened to that too? (It's before the fire incident)
Posted by Bagge on May 27, 2008 twenty past three pm
Also - not related to what you said - I liked how similar the endings of KotCS and FoA are, with a God-machine hidden inside the ruins of an ancient civilization killing the main bad-guy(s) due to their desires to become something more than human.
Posted by johan on May 27, 2008 eight am
nazis -> good : russians -> bad.
Posted by Itamar Schefi on May 27, 2008 ten to three pm
(and the aliens just ruinedthe whole indish atmosphere)
Posted by Bad Dates on May 27, 2008 twenty five past eight pm
For example, if Moloram can rip a guys heart out, have it catch on fire in his hand and still send the dude breathing to his death by lava; if Donovan can drink water from the wrong cup and get blown to pieces; if the bravest of the 3 knights can live 700+ years; if opening the ark can melt everyone who doesn't close their eyes; and if Belloq can really speak Havitos - then by all means Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is true Indy.
Posted by johan on May 28, 2008 five to four am
Posted by Turmoil23 on May 28, 2008 quarter to six am
blanchett awesome
it wouldnt matter if they are nazis, russians, middle eastern bad guys in indy are always the same
bringing the chick from the second(?) movie, unnecesary
i hate that all the steve-george movies have to end with aliens.. like adding aliens to the end of AI, i think i saw some aliens behind a tree in munich too :P
i give indy 4 a 7.5/10
Posted by Aaron1234 on Jul 9, 2008 twenty five past eleven pm
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Posted by gorba on Jun 7, 2008 twenty five past two pm
Posted by Bravopunk on May 29, 2008 quarter to seven am
Ok, there was more action and some szenes were over the top (more than in der first 3). But it was still Indiana Jones!
And if you look carefully, than you can see all the little "homages" to the first three films and even Star Wars.
After all, I would like to see a 5th Indy.
PS: Shia was perfekt. It wouldn't even have disturbt me, if he had put on Indy's hat in the last Szene.(After that, I was wondering about myself!)
Posted by Butt's X on May 29, 2008 quarter to noon
Posted by LazyAndroid on Nov 19, 2008 twenty five past ten am
But I think we still can handle some more John McClane.
Posted by Darth slaughter on May 30, 2008 quarter to ten am
In the end of AI, it was not aliens... it were futuristic robots, as previously indicated in the beggining of the film. They were mechas. In fact that made much more sense, since ETs are out of place.
well, I loved indiana jones 4, and although surviving an atomic bomb is exagerated, if you look back, the other indys had problems with suspension of disbelief:
Temple of doom (the best of the series, period) had indy jumping from a plane and a tall cliff on a raft.
In Raiders, he traveled outside a submarine.
In last crusade, there was that invisible bridge that in fact, was quite visible. Indy should just lean his head.
about plot-hole, why the wrong chalice would kill anyone, like donovan? The real grail had power of life. The others had power of taking life. So, they were also powerful relics worth a lot, and useful to offer drinks to your enemies.
Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 quarter to one pm
Temple of doom (the best of the series, period) had indy jumping from a plane and a tall cliff on a raft.
In Raiders, he traveled outside a submarine.
In last crusade, there was that invisible bridge that in fact, was quite visible. Indy should just lean his head."
True there are moments in the other films where they tread a fine line concerning suspension of disbelief but definitely not to the extent that Indy 4 does and they usually reign it back in. Indy 4 just seems like a ridiculous live action cartoon (whose idea was the stupid prairie dog thing?). Temple of Doom is the next worst offender in this department and that is why I consider it to be the weaker of the first three films. It has some classic moments like the spikes chamber scene (classic Indy) and the mine cart chase but these are offset by the stupid shiva cult nonsense which seems totally out of context with the Indiana Jones canon established in Raiders.
"about plot-hole, why the wrong chalice would kill anyone, like donovan? The real grail had power of life. The others had power of taking life. So, they were also powerful relics worth a lot, and useful to offer drinks to your enemies."
I don't see how that could be considered a plot hole. It simply isn't relevant. Who the hell would want a cup the kills people when they drink from it?
Posted by Darth slaughter on May 30, 2008 ten to ten am
Nazis are not the greatest indy villains. They are the main nemesis. But mola ram was the most scary, a temple of doom had no nazi, no russian, and in my opinion, it's the best of the series, since it has non stop action, there's no time to breath, and the scenes of humor are far better than in last crusade, that was too goofy. they destroyed marcus brody.
Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 five past one pm
Why would you want only non-stop action? You also need time to develop the characters (an important part of movie making which seems to be sorely neglected these days). Last Crusade has character in spades and has some of the funniest dialog in the series. The interplay between Indy and his father was brilliantly handled.
Remember this scene?
Elsa: It's perfectly obvious where the pages are. He's given them to Marcus Brody.
Professor Henry Jones: Marcus? You didn't drag poor Marcus along did you? He's not up to the challenge.
Walter Donovan: He sticks out like a sore thumb. We'll find him.
Indiana Jones: The hell you will. He's got a two day head start on you, which is more than he needs. Brody's got friends in every town and village from here to the Sudan, he speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the grail already.
[Cut to middle of fair in the Middle East, Marcus Brody wearing bright suit and white hat, sticking out like sore thumb]
Marcus Brody: Uhhh, does anyone here speak English?
Classic.
Posted by someguy on May 31, 2008 five to two pm
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Posted by Lestat on Jun 2, 2008 four am
A very predictable, full of cliches and very talkative movie with out any iconic action moment as indy used to have...
Even though, Indy is Indy!!!
Let`s take out Walt Disney from the fridge, and let Harrison Ford enter por posterity!
Indiana should never die!
Posted by March on Jun 2, 2008 ten past four pm
It is true that it is kinda faulty, a shame that they had to go so far away in time, the whole FBI and H bomb thing, was not that cool. I also didn't like him working as a goberment agent, makes sense, but he never did things like that, he travelled by himself. Else, that part should've been better introduced.
The villan was not bad, and the plot maintains the idea of the bad guys trying to find a greater weapon, as happens with RotA and TLC. And given that the alien thing would not have been entirely bad if it had a little more mystisism on it, I believe the way it solves and how the aliens do come to life it's what blows it. But in the end, it is an agent history and at first he doesn't believe it, just as in TLC. Generally indy doesn't really believe the legend and is dragged to it by trying to save others.
Also agree on the AG looking, the ending with the aliens and how her eyes turn bright and then explode really reminded of FoA.
Hey, here's an idea, how about we make up a AG out of this. 5 year project, sure, but what's the hurry? Who else got lots of free time?
Posted by Nosaj on Jun 2, 2008 half past six pm
Overall, considering I had never seen Indy in a theater before, it was worth it. Probably will go see it one more time just because of that reason, but only for that reason.
Posted by johnny on Jun 7, 2008 ten past five pm
Posted by ynamtie on Jun 9, 2008 twenty five to nine am
I liked Ford and LeBouf, but the rest was just whack. No character development, no mystery, no scenic shots just an array of indyish scenes put together to form a 120min movie. Oh yeah, and there is something about a plot and something about aliens... can't remember, this crock of shit was just NOT memorable.
They should've let the Grumpy Gamer make the movie, it might not have been a whole lot better, but at least it would have been genuinely funny.
Posted by spaceship789 on Jun 9, 2008 twenty to ten am
- The family subplot.
- The supernatural element.
- the alien element.
- the indy getting hypnotised element.
- the younger version of indy who who we're meant to like.
You could complain much more about Temple, after Raiders. If you have set your expectations to include the precedents set in the other movie, then theres not much inconsistency.
Posted by Andy on Jun 11, 2008 half past eleven am
Saw it, found it OK. Then a few days after I woke up and thought: "Holy sh**, crystal aliens?". Now honestly, 'tis worse than part 2.
Why the russian psychic? What does she do? Try to read him, fails, telling him: you're too much of a hunkfor that. And then? Nada. He FRIGGIN HAS TO TRY TO SAVE THE VILLAINS IN THE END.
Hopefully, the transformers guy will be digitally ereased by Spielberg/Lukas when remastering the thing. Totally pointless. I mean, even Shorty was useful, wasn't he?
After the Ark, mystic stones, the holy grail, no problem with the alien superpowers in this movie. As long as the aliens have them and NOT Indie. IMHO he appears uberhuman in this movie! He has not the nerdy personality we seen in former movies.
OMG father - son theme, "the next generation". Ahhhhhrgl
Hey, huge ant killing folks animation taken straight out of "Mummy 1". Saves money.
Hey, friggen saucer flying away animation taken straight from "X-Files the movie". Saves more money. I swear I saw Moulder and Scully sitting behind a bush.
Bottom line: bloodless characters in a bloodless plot. And this has nothing to do with the expectations after 19 years of waiting. They had nineteen years and came up with this? Holy flying batman!
Sorry for repeating some of the other posters, didn't bother to read what they had to jabber...
Posted by nambulous on Jun 22, 2008 twenty to three pm
Yes, that was the biggest mystery to me. They had this much time, but this was the best script they could come up with. This really stuns me.
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Posted by Ballo on Jun 15, 2008 half past three pm
Now seriusly,I´m 28 years old,and I must thank you for my sense of humor and my twisted ideas to solve a puzzle.
You will always be an example to follow for me.
Thanks from Spain.
Posted by Sgt. Crushem on Jun 16, 2008 five past ten am
1st time I was to focused on comparing the films.
2nd and 3rd it proves to be an amazing Indy adventure like the rest.
I will agree with the monkey Tarzan scene, def kinda Cheesy.
but the scene where Indy blows the dart back in the grave guardians mouth and then the "your a teacher?" "only Part time" line! F'ing Epic!
Alien Idea is fine, anyone ever read the comics?
here is hoping for Indy 5
Posted by someguy on Jun 18, 2008 ten past three pm
Posted by Fero on Jun 22, 2008 half past four pm
Indy 4 = Monkey Island 3 (good but not good enough... something is missing... some old taste.. maybe a little 80's soul.)
Posted by Lestat on Jun 22, 2008 quarter past nine pm
"they dont effort anymore"...
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Posted by nnsense on Jul 4, 2008 ten to four pm
This.. AWESOME.. Indy 4... seems.. more... a National Treasure.. 3 ! ! ! !
(hehe.. bad english? for sure! here in italy they doesn't teach english AT ALL.. sigh :) )
Posted by nnsense on Jul 4, 2008 ten to four pm
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Posted by Mr Pineapple head on Aug 6, 2008 ten past two am
I wish it was never made.....
The characters never really feels like they r in danger (the waterfall sequence is a brilliant example of that).
The crotch jokes r out of style completely...
the bad guy (girl) has no personality...