Critics vs. Popular

Jan 29, 2006 ten to six pm

Saw these two stories next to each other on Google News and found it funny.  Besides, posting a big picture like this gives you the illusion that something new and interesting appeared on Grumpy Gamer.

Other people's comments:

Posted by Altered Bonk on Jan 29, 2006 twenty to seven pm

I'm totally going to see Big Momma's House 2 right now.

Posted by PissedOffMonkeyIslandFan on Jan 30, 2006 ten to eight am

I would kill you if it weren't for that whole "death penalty" thing.

Posted by ScummFan on Jan 30, 2006 twenty five to nine am

Isn't seeing Big Momma's House 2 like getting the death penalty?

Posted by eD on Jan 29, 2006 half past seven pm

hawhawhawhaw

touché!

Posted by David Thomsen on Jan 29, 2006 five past ten pm

Toa Fraser? No. 2? When did that happen? I live in New Zealand, I'm a Film graduate... I should probably be paying way more attention.

Posted by jp-30 on Jan 30, 2006 ten past midnight

Dude. It's all over the news here.

But the NZ Listener editorial this week helps put it all into perspective.  :P

Posted by spaceship789 on Jan 30, 2006 ten past one am

ahh, good old tall poppy syndrome. Cut 'em down kiwis!

Well, it looks like I am the third New Zealand poster in a row.  I am not surprised. Last week I saw a guy walking around Auckland with a Monkey Island Tshirt. (fan made?)

Posted by Tramb on Jan 30, 2006 quarter past six am

Of course, what is really important, is how we will definitely kick the All Blacks' asses during next World Cup.
(I won't reveal my nationality to avoid (justified)  teasing ;)

Posted by JP on Jan 31, 2006 twenty to one am

Well we haven't won the damn thing since the inaugural one in when, 1986?

And I don't think that editorial is "Tall Poppy Syndrome", Welch is very supportive of the movie, just ranting at the amount of meaningless awards dished out for art. You could probably draw parallels to the gaming industry. Every game box has some sort of award or GOTY sticker from some website or magazine or other that I've never heard of.

Posted by David Thomsen on Jan 30, 2006 twenty five to eight am

I don't even have a TV... well I do, but all it does is block the hallway. I lost faith in TV when I was so majorly disappointed with a highly anticipated episode of The Simpsons. Also I lost patience when I began to associate great music more and more with toothpaste, or bread, or whatever. Even a distinctive native bird call makes me think of motor oil, which I think is advertising at its most insidious.

I kind of agree with the editorial, though. It irritates me that every second book in the store claims to be 'the international number one bestseller', and has a shining commendation from Time magazine. It's a bit unfair to say that every film that isn't a turkey wins an award, though. And I'm quite sure Toa Fraser doesn't have the budget to win an award on advertising alone. Denis has used the usual journalistic tactic of juxtaposing some ideas and leaving it to the reader to conclude that point B does not necessarily relate to point A.

Posted by Ninomojo on Jan 30, 2006 quarter past three am

This has nothing to do but I'm quite happy to discover Ron Gilbert has a blog (and I'm now among the million people who said that as a comment). Ron, just the way your write and your sens of humor makes me feel I'm playing your games again, I kind of recognize the vibe :)

Games need more good writers like you.

Posted by gnome on Jan 30, 2006 quarter to six am

Popular and criticaly acclaimed are qualities that only a handful of games have... That's just another similarity of the video game and movie industries...

Posted by Haggis on Jan 30, 2006 twenty past seven am

It's because movie/game makers always assume that their customers have more taste than they actually have (the average gamer/movie goer has absolutely no taste whatsoever).

Posted by David Thomsen on Jan 30, 2006 quarter to eight am

But movie/game makers also often forget how astute the average customer can be... they will always notice when people try to distract their attention away from fundamental flaws in plot or narration by putting shiny things on the screen. Of all the millions of people who have seen "Big Mother's House II", I doubt anyone other than the lowest common denominator came out of the cinema with any real satisfaction.

Posted by Joshi on Jan 30, 2006 quarter past two pm

I'm still trying to figure out why such movies as Big Momma's House and Cheaper by the Dozen are all getting sequels.

Posted by Ron Gilbert on Jan 30, 2006 quarter past two pm

Because they become #1 at the box office.

Posted by Agustí on Jan 31, 2006 twenty to six am

I'm still trying to figure why the cinematic equivalent of suffering a leg amputation with a tea spoon becomes #1 at box office.

The implications of such a fact are frightening...

Posted by Elaine Marley on Jan 31, 2006 eight am

That reminds me of a "happy tree friends" chapter...

Posted by Joshi on Feb 2, 2006 half past noon

Because some people are morons who still think Steve Martin is funny. These are the same people who seem to think men in drag are funny. It's a real shame really, so many good movies *coughSerenitycough* don't get the recognition they deserve whilst tripe like this get's a sequel and more merchandise than they know what to do with.

Posted by Jeff on Jan 30, 2006 twenty five to four pm

Oh, that's easy.

Man in dress = BIG LAFFS!

Posted by Kubat on Jan 30, 2006 ten to five pm

WOW ! Something new and clever !

Posted by Jat316sob on Jan 30, 2006 quarter past six pm

This reminds me of last year's Academy Awards, when Chris Rock went out to a mall to ask the masses about the films nominated that night. Not one person he was shown speaking to had seen a nominated film, and when questioned about his favourite movie that year, one man responded "Whoa, 'White Chicks' dude!"

Posted by spaceship789 on Jan 30, 2006 twenty five to eleven pm

Sometimes weird things happen and crap hits the top of the movie charts, or the singles charts, or weird fads grip the entire country.

But the great thing about popular culture is that it provides the back drop to most peoples lives.  Search within the backdrop of trashy popular culture and there is still a unique good feeling worthy of nostagia.

Pop trash can be quite inspiring.

Take maniac mansion for instance. Arguably the films that it was parodying were crap. Horror movies and those eighties kids movies involving a bunch of kids sneaking away on an adventure.  Looking back on most of them, they were pretty poor. Yet maniac mansion managed to capture the zeitgeist of that period, just with a massive moon in the sky, the sound of chirping crickets and three kids outside an old house. It captured their dreams and their motivations, no matter how silly - ie become a rock star, a writer etc etc.

Theres no reason why someone couldn't make an adventure game involving all the stupid pop trash of a particular moment in time, and mail it round. People would be able to connect to it, just because the things that it is subtley paradoying are relevant to them. Society always have pop trash, but the closer you are to the pop trash the closer you are to influencing the minds of the masses.

Posted by haysoos on Jan 31, 2006 ten past nine pm

Note that "No. 2" won the AUDIENCE award in the World Cinema competition, which means that the people who saw it in the audience rated it highly, in large numbers by way of ballot. In essence, it won the popularity contest in that category. Maybe you can say all the audience members were acting like "critics" when they assessed the quality of the movie... but nahhhh. So really this whole thing is Popular vs. Popular (but among two totally different sets).

I dunno really, but I'd hazard a guess that most of the people who came out of "Big Momma's House 2" said "awww, that was shit." So maybe it wouldn't be actually popular.

Posted by ZIPBAPBADA on Feb 7, 2006 five past four am

It is because movies that win awards are not entertaining.

Posted by El Milanes on Feb 15, 2006 twenty five past ten pm

It's a miracle that films of that budget are made here in NZ, the govt just gives tax relieves to king-kong size projects. Then the little ones can go in a lot of troubles themselves, like River Queen (thanks to Agatha from Minority Report). I am proud though of neat little productions, like the world's fastest indian!


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