Grumpy Gamer

Does the Microsoft share only include the XBox sales or does the number contain XBox and Microsoft Store sales?

Thanks for the insight

It includes the Microsoft Store numbers, but those have been very small. What's hard to tell is if someone bought it on the Xbox, but then plays it on Windows.  We have no visibility into that information.

I was wondering if someone would see that?  That's humble bundle sales.  We haven't been in any Bundles, so that is just from their store (which gives out Steam Keys, but they are not included in the Steam numbers).

Does the sales chart include the Kickstarter backer Mac and PC game rewards? If not that would partially explain the low Steam and GOG numbers. Also, does the Nintendo store have sales? The Steam users I know tend to add games they are interested in to their Wishlist but only buy them when they're discounted. It would be interesting to see the sales per store based on units sold rather than monetary value.

The only thing i can personally think of for the ps4/xbox divide is that one platform is much more starved for content than the other - it's easier for smaller games to get signal boosted in that environment. or maybe the xbox store is better at highlighting smaller games

i personally bought the game on ps4 but that was because i knew it was coming out and tracked it's release.

We don't do hardly anything on the Humble Store.  I don't know why.

Are you satisfied with the numbers the game did up to now?
I remember it having sold somewhat on the lower end of expectations before the launch of the Switch.

It's not too surprising for me that the Switch is doing very good for most game devs. It's an emerging platform still, the user base is still growing and the market is certainly not saturated yet.

Plus, I can kind of see people buying an adventure game for the Switch. You can take it everywhere you want and wander around some more whenever you find some time. Or it can even be a nice game to play together on the sofa at home, trying to solve all the puzzles together.

Thanks for sharing :)

I think the Xbox One timed exclusivity and tremendous Switch momentum explain the console result perfectly well.

I bought on GOG because I like "owning" the game as much as possible. I wish I could erase my memory and play the game again.

I wanted to buy the game on PS4 til I saw it was a timed console-exclusive. I thought „well, if I need to wait for no apparent reason, I can also wait til it's on sale" and then forgot about it.

With the success of the Switch version (which I assume came as somewhat as a surprise as I seem to recall you not expecting the console ports to make a massive difference), have you and Gary now exceeded what you would have made with a regular job for those years?

Do you consider Thimbleweed Park to be an overall success now, or have the console sales not been a big enough difference in the grand scheme of things?

I personally waited for the iOS release. An iPad is really my preferred platform for most types of games these days! I love the fact that I can play it anywhere opening and closing the game/device within seconds. Thanks for an excellent port!

I'm pretty sure that the Switch is selling really well in Europe, actually.

They made good chunk of money! Good for them and new adventure games

What about Monkey Island 3a?

Well, I don't know the current number of active Vita users, but you can't compare Vita and PS4. Seeing the (incredible) success of the Switch port, a port for Vita may be successful, too. On the other hand, the target might have decided for one of those several other platforms already, which you can get the game for. So, maybe it would be too late for a Vita port anyway, now.

My data is from here:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/269552/ps4-vs-xbox-one-vs-switch-europe-lifetime-salesjuly-2017-update/

Judging that EU has 410m People I still do not believe the Switch is a hit here.

@Dominik
-That site is known to give made up data.
-The time stamp on that arricle is from 2017, when the switch had only been out for a few months.

The Switch is a big hit in Europe.

@Dominik: Based on the number of units we do on Switch in the EU, I think it's been a big hit.

They are ordering more. I don't know the time frame.

@Dominik @Darkstorm

The very same site Dominik mentioned places Europe Switch sales in the 6M ballpark now:
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/394082/nintendo-switch-outsells-original-xbox/

I just wait for a discount, then I will buy this game for my Switch. The Switch is just perfect fpr this indie and retrogames. And I would love to play Monkey Island 1 & 2 on the Switch ;)
Best regards
Tobi

Hope this means lots of money and more adventures to come.

Who thought a timed exclusive on Xbox was a good idea? That sucks you skipped the PS4 at launch. Numbers don't surprise me at all.

I can only speak for myself. I saw it for the first time on Kinda funny. Saw it was Xbox only, forgot about it and didnt buy well until well after that. PS4 just announced 91.6 million sold. I would've launched day and date with PS4. That's just me.

At the same time, I'm glad you got extra funding to make the game great!

Question for Ron: Given that the Steam version per SteamSpy and the leaked Steam data from late last year indicates that TP has sold at least 100,000 copies on Steam, and that's just one-third of the sales revenue, plus the Fangamer physical units, plus the LRG releases selling around 10,000 units, plus the kickstarter backer funding, I'm baffled as to how word on the various TP forums is that the game was a commercial disappointment for you?  

Between the kickstarter money and the total sales, everyone who worked on the game made a nice amount of money, the secondary investors post-kickstarter made at least some sort of profitable return, and Terrible Toybox Inc. will continue to earn a healthy amount of sales revenue month by month as the game keeps generating sales.

The game has been critically popular, i think another game by the same team would be a bigger hit and crowd-funding it again would generate just as much backer funds as TP if not more, the fanbase is there and unlike disasters like Unsung Story and Mighty No. 9 you guys delivered.

@Ron: But strictly financially was it a success for you? I remember you mentioned somewhere that you dug yourselves into a hole or something along those lines, which sounded a little depressing to me.

I'd say that the people who are likely to buy Thimbleweed Park are also a group that is targeted by the Switch concept.

The idea Nintendo has seems to work extra well with young people in the workforce who miss gaming (and couch multiplayer) from the 90s and 00s, who remember the popular culture from these decades (thus attracted to Thimbleweed Park), and whose time is more restricted than their bank account now.

They have noticed that the Switch is their only feasible option for playing recent non-casual (large, decent) games while commuting, traveling and staying in hotel rooms. They have the option to move to a big flat screen TV at home for the extra immersion, while a PS4 or a gaming PC would be chained up to that flat screen panel at home.

The portability and fast access (fast standby) is usually worth the extra money the cartridges cost for me as I will actually finish games and not just accumulate them in some digital library.

Perhaps Switch is a platform, people more familiar with adventure games, in general, are gravitating towards to? Of course, it all is subjective, but from a personal POV I am more interested in Switch than either XBox or PS. Not that I'll get one, mind you, poor finances and all, but if I'd get a console, Switch would be it.

Hey! You see that 3.7%? Do you?  Well, that's me! Waving faintly  in the far confines of the landscape, impervious to sight. There are the androids you're looking for.

One of the best GAs ever, in my humble odd onion. Right up there, alongside Operation Wolf - the 'splended'puzzle quest given by the POTUS keeps haunting my bucket list, still today.

Please keep making 'em so we can keep getting 'em. Thank you so much.

Hey, That paper would be interesting, it is a math study relate games sellin
arxiv.org/pdf/1710.01931.pdf     from abstract "We
present an experimental analysis of several methods to forecast
game-related variables, with two main aims: to obtain accurate
predictions of in-app purchases and playtime in an operational
production environment, and to perform simulations of in-game
events in order to maximize sales and playtime"